这部电影我是大学时候在网吧里看的,但小学时候就在图书馆看过《荷马史诗•伊利亚特》了,这部电影老实说要远远比皮特的《特洛伊》要写实得多。
《新木马屠城记》里的海伦远比《特洛伊》里的要可爱、清纯、唯美,有一种想到保护她的欲望,虽然没有达到完美的境界,但也有85分了。
而里面阿伽门农的表演堪称一代枭雄,有着希腊主人的王者气息,这点和《伊利亚特》里的描述基本上接近。
完全盖了男主角的戏,整个希腊半岛几乎都拜服在阿伽门农的淫威之下,尤其是他的弟弟斯巴达王~那个我们心目中无比强悍的战斗民族斯巴达人的王竟然如此对阿伽门农马首是瞻。
而帕丽斯的故事实际上和《伊利亚特》也是一致的,增加了更多的英雄气概,原著里确实是有他打败特洛伊第一强者~王太子赫克托尔的描述,但电影里他并不是一个小人,而是一个为了真爱敢于冒险的大丈夫,可能西方人没有中国人传统的那种忠贞不渝的概念,所以电影可以这样拍。
战争场面一般,但也看的下去,这部电影里主要是文戏比较精彩,所以战争场面并不是重点,在文戏上,尤其是存在阿伽门农的场景,你都可以感受到这位希腊的霸主的王者气息。
片中时间停止那一段真是神来之笔。
海伦的美貌在爱琴海迎风招展,爱情却被惊涛撕成了碎片。
她并不是战争的根源,而是战争的牺牲品罢了。
她并不是祸水,只是长了一副令人难以抗拒的脸庞。
绝大多数的人无法预知,因为无法预知而总盼望着更美好、更幸福,而不肯珍惜身边拥有的。
特洛伊战争可谓是因一个女人而引发的战争,不由得让我想到“红颜祸水”这一成语,然而这并非海伦之意。
虽然拥有着倾国倾城貌,却无法与自己的爱人厮守一生,最终自己爱情的归宿还得由残酷厮杀的战争决定。
相信更多的人不是羡慕她的美貌而是怜悯她的遭遇吧。
爱情是伟大的,它另两个男人为爱付出一切,但是斯巴达王的爱是盲目的,因为他倾尽兵力冒险争夺的虽然是他的妻子,却不是他的爱人。
如果他能觉悟到这点,或许就能避免一场血腥的战争了吧。
总觉得女人的过分美丽真的是一种罪过——你可以如此的肆意,哭的最无辜,笑的最灿烂。
更可以让无数的男人为你不惜一切,连生命都不要。
真是不知道那些家伙在想些什么,仅仅为了你的美丽么?
仅仅,或者这个词用的很无耻,这样一个迷人的女子,连我都认真的爱她,何况那些男人?
然而女孩对女孩的爱是完全不同的吧……没有看上她的脸,不会嫉妒。
这种透明的爱和喜欢,是只想着迷乱的男人所无法感受的……女爱是为大爱,也可能被骂是les,无畏。
可是海伦啊,我又是这么恨你…………当女孩子已经只能靠着男子生存时,她就丧失了自己的本性了吧?
即便你再灿烂的对着我笑,总还是少了什么的……当命运的指轮落到你丈夫里,当你母亲背转身不再要你时,你是否想过反抗呢?
特洛伊完了,帕里斯不在了,你被你丈夫拖回去的时候,我真的看到回身看我的你,静静的流泪了……佳人倾城……
Sienna Guillory 是在是太美了,从第一个镜头她的出现,真的,这就是我梦中的helen,宛如仙女一般出现在眼前
借给看过彼特饰演的特洛伊的好友,觉得还是这个更好些,起码在选角色上让人比较信服。
奥兰多饰演的主人公未免太瘦弱了,而这部的演员,包括海伦在内,都给人无比深刻的印象。
因为有对比,所以觉得还不错,推荐之。
A beauty, a hero, and a king, three person’s stories; beauty, courage, and desire, three different emotions. Their intersection is the movie "Helen of troy". Paris in the dark was suddenly coming out of the enemy draw knife stabbed several died on the spot ……Helen was raped by Agamemnon, who could not resist, In the end, back to the starting point - she still followed his husband, whom she did not love ...... the men, who personally killed his daughter for war ritual, Agamemnon, was eventually killed by his wife ...... the surprising plots to shook the people's nerves. If they had known these final results, will they go to still struggle for it? Still to pursue? Will they chooser the same choices. Helen is the beauty, she represents the free of love. Helen is just a weak woman, even though she has a beautiful face. Every woman is eager to be a beauty, but the beauty of Helen brought her a series of disasters, “The beautiful woman suffered a harsh life”. Her beauty becomes the object of desires of many men: she is robbed by Theseus, then his brother robbed her back; her father hated her; the kings got together and decided her vest. Her body was her own, but she is not independence. All of these makes Helen flee. Perhaps it is unforgivable that Helen fled from Greece in the eyes of the Greeks. But as a woman, it is a pursuit of free love. For love, she blows everything. Helen, who is an active life, she knows what she wants, and pursuit of the goal of herself. She proved that women are not just an object of desire for men, she also has the ability to initiate the pursuit of love and happiness. From Helen I also thought of "Yingying biography" the girl Cui Yingying, and" Stone Story "Lin Daiyu."Stone Story "Lin seems to get rid of the tragic fate, the novel pointed to the Lin's identity at the beginning, she is the reincarnations of annatto, Lin struggled for independent personal love and freedom, she suffered extraordinary pains. Lin therefore shed the last drop of for true love. In addition, from Helen's story, I saw the ancient Greeks’ questing for the beauty. As a modern man, I cannot understand, a decade of war, the ultimate goal of war is for a beauty, which no modern man can understand. Perhaps in the eyes of Greeks, The beauty is above anything, beauty is truth. The two sides compete for peerless beauty Helen, countless soldiers went dark for the beauty of sacrifice without regrets. Perhaps because of this, the ancient Greek create the elegant and refined, noble and lively, full of artistic expression full of beautiful statues. Paris is also a hero. He is different from the movie "Troy" that Paris no longer hid in the city, and did not meet the enemy, he is not the cowardly Paris. Although he was not the first warrior of Troy, but he does not intend to surrender to anyone, he fight for his own reputation. The pursuit of honor and dreams and goals of each ancient Greek hero. They process in the pursuit of honor, individuality, self-affirmation, to realize their own values, but also to indulge the desire to sacrifice moral, ethical. War is an important way to get the honor. the release of passion, you can win a lot of trophies, enhanced reputation, the subject of admiration. For example, Achilles would rather die, than want to lead his life comfortably at home. Agamemnon symbolizes the desire, his desire to focus on three areas: the woman - Helen; for wealth, power; against honor. Agamemnon's desire to unite to meet the end of the movie, though, but with the life disappear, he could not really have his income. As a man, he was eager to Helen's beauty; as king, eager to wealth, power; as a great hero, the pursuit of honor. His desire, the more and more damage to others. To his desires, he snubbed his wife, killed her daughter, coerced brother, kill the tens of thousands of people. Sadly with the disappearance of his own lives, Agamemnon cannot really have his income. This is the tragedy of human destiny. Second, the pursuit of wealth and power. As a king, Agamemnon is thirst for power and greed for wealth, which coexists with the growing strength of his ambition. At that time the Greek states, the most powerful Mycenae, Agamemnon is the highest leader of the entire Greek region, he orders the pack, assembled troops. Achilles, Odysseus, Menelaus and so obey him. He wants absolute power, which makes him particularly arrogant men. He also wants to conquer the ocean side of the Trojan people, so that they surrender to him. In the film, his fierce eyes prove arrogant Agamemnon. Any of his decisions are irrefutable. He dreamed to conquer the world. In the film, Agamemnon is the object of many desires, he desire carrier interests, wealth, excuse powers and so on. After decades of war, he was loaded with booty, honor and go, very comfortable lying tub. Then Agamemnon reached the pinnacle of his life. He is successful, peak moment is also low moments, all of his life is together with his disappearance. People admire the ancient Greek heroes, we should also ponder war and humanity. Society needs proper desire, need good human, but definitely do not need
著名的希腊神话故事,特洛伊城的巴利斯王子,爱上了美丽非凡的海伦,并不顾一切的将她带回了特洛伊城。
谁知海伦本是巴斯达国王的爱妃,愤怒的巴斯达下令向特洛伊城发起进攻,一场残酷的战争拉开了序幕。
希腊神话的精粹,希腊神话中最波澜壮阔的篇章,一个女人毁灭了一个国家。
海伦,希腊神话中人世间第一美女,你的美貌和红杏出墙给特洛伊这个国家带来了灭顶之灾,一个国家的人被全部屠杀。
几千年以来,欧洲历史学家反复讨论的一个话题就是这场战争的本质是什么是为了人世间最美丽的女子海伦还是人。
特洛伊战争是荷马史诗的第一部,讲述了希腊人如何攻打特洛伊人的整个过程。
在里面诞生了两个史诗级的英雄,阿基琉斯和赫克托。
两个都是我很喜欢的人物。
但我认为在电影的前半段他们只能被称作勇士,在经历了内心重大选择的洗礼后他们才可以被称作真正意义的英雄。
首先,阿基琉斯在神话中是人和神之子,但是电影中没有像神话一样把他形容得像一个不死之身。
他在无敌的同时也是桀骜不驯的,但是拥有巨大力量的阿基琉斯却很迷茫,似乎他的存在只有征服和杀戮,他一直奉行的个人英雄主义背后却是满满的空虚。
而赫克托,是一个好儿子,一个好哥哥,一个好丈夫,他是一个好王子,他为了国家而战,为了所有国民而战,他没有退缩,承担了属于王子的那份责任。
但面对阿基琉斯的对决他也同样动摇过,看着妻子熟睡的侧脸和隆起的小腹,他也渴望自己能够陪伴在家人身边,谁不希望可以好好活着呢?
可悲壮的是他明知自己会输,也勇然为了自己的国家依然选择了一场赴死的战斗其中值得一提的是我被阿基里斯的伟大和深厚的英雄主义色彩震撼到的瞬间,并不是他以一敌百的时刻,也不是他为表弟复仇的怒火。
而是在木马屠城时,他最先想到的是拯救那个心爱的女祭司的生命。
在这时驱动他前进的并不是之前一直奉行的个人荣誉与尊严,而是爱。
也同样是爱带来的恐惧与脆弱,让他暴露了弱点和软肋,并最终为爱而死。
但也正是爱,让他人性的一面烨烨生辉,让那个所向披靡,整个希腊为之颤抖的战神留名万世,让后人都生活在阿基里斯的时代。
我喜欢希腊的勇士,喜欢他们的勇气,喜欢他们最求人的价值。
这是一个伟大的时代,也是一个英雄的时代。
而这部电影,告诉我们真正的英雄主义是可以怀揣着脆弱与恐惧前行的。
没有弱点的是神,而爱与信念才是让我们可以“明知不可为而为之”的第一驱动力。
Helen of Troy ——猜到了开头,失望了结尾 经过了多少年的流传,Helen of Troy早已成为红颜祸水的代名词,希腊传说中Helen惊人的美貌、与帕里斯之间唯美或饱含欲望的关系、高贵神秘的身份……都让古老悠远的神话更加扑朔迷离引人入胜。
不管何时,美人从来都是极富吸引力的,更何况是美得乱了天下、毁掉一个城邦的海伦,所以,在看到影片名称时我就觉得它成功了——特洛伊的海伦,且不管重点是在特洛伊与海伦之上,还是在已经为人熟知的“红颜祸水”之上,至少,像画龙点睛一样,海伦的名字,这个神秘而传奇的女人的名字,就让人平添了许多想象与好感。
乍看之下,以为是从海伦的视角来塑造整个战争故事,或是将海伦提点出来、一改往日男人战争中沦为陪衬的物品姿态,让我们看看即使命运无法自己掌控却依然有血有肉的“人”,于是,便兴致勃勃地关注海伦随水池中看见帕里斯、被绑架、失去弟弟和“劫持者”、被残忍地驱逐出嫁、沦为赤裸在100余位首领面前的“新娘”、遇见帕里斯、和帕里斯逃走……直到最后告别帕里斯的亡魂、决定信任墨涅俄斯、却最终无法摆脱被阿伽门农凌辱的悲惨结局。
不能不说,影片中的海伦是美的,美在初长成人时骑马出游的青春活力、美在看到水池中帕里斯后的芳心暗许、甚至美在被雅典王子忒修斯意外劫持后对其的信任与喜爱、和愿意逃离痛苦选择与爱的人一同远走的勇敢……但这样的海伦并不是我所期待的海伦,她可以一见钟情、可以不顾后果、可以随心所欲……但是,如果仅仅是这样的海伦、这样拥有美丽无比的外表和公主气性的女人,就真的值得人们口口相传美丽无比的女中珍珠吗?
不。
也许我不该对既定的神话有过多在许多人眼中无意义的质疑与声讨,但“一千个观众心中有一千个哈姆莱特”,身为无数观众中的一个,我自认为理应表达对心中海伦的希望。
—— Frailty, thy name is woman!莎士比亚在《哈姆莱特》中抛出了这样一句话,虽然我不认同,但却以为该做—— Frailty, thy name is Helen!是极为合适的。
阿伽门农之妻克吕泰涅斯特拉可以因为恨丈夫为求顺风献祭他们的女儿伊菲革涅亚而大胆行刺、因为对当年抛弃孩子亚历山德罗的行为后悔内疚,特洛伊王后赫卡柏抛下一切重新接纳了帕里斯并为他留下海伦…….不管她们是不是另有隐情,至少我们看到了她们的勇气和真正鲜活的人格生命。
很遗憾,我在影片中从头到尾只看见了海伦空洞的美——对于对她关心爱护的弟弟,她没有为他因就她而死留下一滴眼泪;对于赤身裸体沦为众首领一同分享的玩物这样的待遇,她毫无反应;甚至对于愿意跟随逃离的帕里斯,她口口声声说爱,却宁愿在帕里斯的死亡之处,重新选择了跟随墨涅俄斯,并再一次在阿伽门农的凌辱之下苟延残喘…… 这,不是我所希望看到的海伦,不管在何种时代背景下,她都不应该是逆来顺受的玩物,即使命运残酷,她也需要自己去扎根、去成长、哪怕去抗争!
而不是成为任人凌虐只求依附、毫无生气的点缀,这是我所期待能够得到展现的海伦。
不是很喜欢这部片子,海伦不够漂亮,故事也有点扯。应该是为了语文课调研看的。。。
这个Helen太吓人
英语老师让看的,还要写一篇350字以上的观后感。女主角长的挺好看,但情节有点扯淡,特洛伊那个老国王感觉真蠢,一无是处
累……
这部里面的海伦比布拉德比特演的那部里面的海伦漂亮
我无语了。既没有遵照史诗也没有拍出有亮点的情节和人物,我都不知道自己为什么要看完。
除了海伦美爆了之外不比pitt好。前面大半部分好坏标在脸上,10年一下过去绝对是硬伤。阿克琉斯典韦般一样昙花一现,狗一样的死去了= =后面剧情人物性格还好,不过史诗中讲小人物总有些别扭
个人此版 海伦 是众多版本中最清纯的
虽然给4星,但是——想起这片气就不打一出来!!那个倒霉孩子把欧冠决赛我仁和切尔西的片弄成这玩意的靠靠靠!!!
翻译是个渣翻译,电影是个烂电影,可是,海伦是个好菇凉!
也许《特洛伊》很商业化,但至少伊利亚特中推动故事发展的阿基琉斯还是伟大的英雄并且俊美非凡;但这里,OMG,那样的阿基琉斯确定可以穿女装骗过众人吗?帕里斯的懦弱是到后来连海伦都为之哭泣和不齿的,所以,很不喜欢洗白他俩爱情,妖魔化阿基琉斯的版本= =
为了如此样貌的女人居然开战,大概被催眠了吧
Sienna Guillory 漂亮
比2004皮特的《特洛伊》情节好太多了,基本做到削弱神祗作用和强化爱情后的原著翻拍。
Their passion ignited a war and destroyed an empire比Brad Peter演的那个什么大片好看多了。
比特洛伊好看
浪费我时间
比布拉特皮特那部来得更写实
这个海伦真漂亮
非常好看,比troy强到哪里去了