船车司机So what do you think of my little vessel? She's what we call "see-worthy." S-E-E. See with your eyesI feel like my transport should be an extension of my personality. Voila. And this? This is like my little window to the world, and every minute, it's a different show.Now, I may not understand it. I may not even necessarily agree with it. But I'll tell you what, I accept it and just sort of glide along.You want to keep things on an even keel I guess is what I'm saying.You want to go with the flow. The sea refuses no river.The idea is to remain in a state of constant departure while always arriving.Saves on introductions and good-byes.The ride does not require an explanation.Just occupants. That's where you guys come in.It's like you come onto this planet with a crayon box.Now, you may get the 8 pack, you may get the 16 pack.But it's all in what you do with the crayons,the colors that you're given.Don't worry about drawing within the lines or coloring outside the lines.I say color outside the lines. Color right off the page.Don't box me in. We're in motion to the ocean.We are not landlocked, I'll tell ya that.
存在主义The reason why I refuse to take existentialism as just another French fashion or historical curiosity is that I think it has something very important to offer us for the new century.I 'm afraid we're losing the real virtues of living life passionately,the sense of taking responsibility for who you are,the ability to make something of yourself and feeling good about life.Existentialism is often discussed as if it's a philosophy of despair.But I think the truth is just the opposite.Sartre once interviewed said he never really felt a day of despair in his life.But one thing that comes out from reading these guys is not a sense of anguish about life so much as a real kind of exuberance of feeling on top of it.It's like your life is yours to create.I've read the post modernists with some interest, even admiration.But when I read them, I always have this awful nagging feelingthat something absolutely essential is getting left out.The more that you talk about a person as a social constructionor as a confluence of forces or as fragmented or marginalized,what you do is you open up a whole new world of excuses.And when Sartre talks about responsibility,he's not talking about something abstract.He's not talking about the kind of self or soul that theologians would argue about.It's something very concrete. It's you and me talking.Making decisions. Doing things and taking the consequences.It might be true that there are six billion people in the world and counting.Nevertheless, what you do makes a difference.It makes a difference, first of all, in material terms.Makes a difference to other people and it sets an example.In short, I think the message here is that we should never simply write ourselves off and see ourselves as the victim of various forces.It's always our decision who we are.
语言、感受与精神交流Creation seems to come out of imperfection.It seems to come out of a striving and a frustration.And this is where I think language came from.I mean, it came from our desire to transcend our isolation and have some sort of connection with one another.And it had to be easy when it was just simple survival.Like, you know, "water." We came up with a sound for that.Or, "Saber-toothed tiger right behind you." We came up with a sound for that.But when it gets really interesting, I think,is when we use that same system of symbols to communicate all the abstract and intangible things that we're experiencing.What is, like, frustration? Or what is anger or love?When I say "love,"the sound comes out of my mouth and it hits the other person's ear,travels through this Byzantine conduit in their brain,you know, through their memories of love or lack of love,and they register what I'm saying and say yes, they understand.But how do I know they understand? Because words are inert.They're just symbols. They're dead, you know?And so much of our experience is intangible.So much of what we perceive cannot be expressed. It's unspeakable.And yet, you know, when we communicate with one another,and we feel that we have connected,and we think that we're understood, I think we have a feeling of almost spiritual communion.And that feeling might be transient, but I think it's what we live for.
进化If we are looking at the highlights of human development,you have to look at the evolution of the organism and then at the development of its interaction with the environment.Evolution of the organism will begin with the evolution of lifeperceived through the hominid coming to the evolution of mankind.Neanderthal, Cro-Magnon man.Now, interestingly, what you are looking at here are three strings:biological, anthropological, development of the cities, cultures and cultural, which is human expression.Now, what you are seen here is the evolution of populations,not so much the evolution of individuals.And in addition, if you look at the time scales that's involved here two billion years for life,six million years for the hominid,100,000 years for mankind as we know it, you're beginning to see the telescoping nature of the evolutionary paradigm.And then when you get to agricultural, when you get to scientific revolution and industrial revolution, you're looking at 10,000 years, 400 years, 150 years.You're seeing a further telescoping of this evolutionary time.What that means is that as we go through the new evolution,it's gonna telescope to the point we should be able to see it manifest itself within our lifetime, within this generation.The new evolution stems from information, and it stems from two types of information: digital and analog.The digital is artificial intelligence.The analog results from molecular biology, the cloning of the organism.And you knit the two together with neurobiology.Before on the old evolutionary paradigm, one would die and the other would grow and dominate.But under the new paradigm, they would exist as a mutually supportive, noncompetitive grouping.Okay, independent from the external.And what is interesting here is that evolution now becomes an individually centered process,emanating from the needs and the desires of the individual,and not an external process, a passive process where the individual is just at the whim of the collective.So, you produce a neo-human with a new individuality and a new consciousness.But that's only the beginning of the evolutionary cycle, because as the next cycle proceeds, the input is now this new intelligence.As intelligence piles on intelligence, as ability piles on ability, the speed changes.Until what? Until you reach a crescendo in a way could be imagined as an enormous instantaneous fulfillment of human, human and neo-human potential.It could be something totally different.It could be the amplification of the individual,the multiplication of individual existences.Parallel existences now with the individual no longer restricted by time and space.And the manifestations of this neo-human-type evolution, manifestations could be dramatically counter-intuitive.That's the interesting part. The old evolution is cold.It's sterile. It's efficient, okay?And its manifestations are those social adaptations.You're talking about parasitism, dominance, morality, okay?Uh, war, predation, these would be subject to de-emphasis.These would be subject to de-evolution.The new evolutionary paradigm will give us the human traits of truth, of loyalty, of justice, of freedom.These will be the manifestations of the new evolution.That is what we would hope to see from this. That would be nice.
自燃者A self-destructive man feels completely alienated, utterly alone.He's an outsider to the human community.He thinks to himself, "I must be insane."What he fails to realize is that society has, just as he does,a vested interest in considerable losses and catastrophes.These wars, famines, floods and quakes meet well-defined needs.Man wants chaos.In fact, he's gotta have it.Depression, strife, riots, murder, all this dread.We're irresistibly drawn to that almost orgiastic state created out of death and destruction.It's in all of us. We revel in it.Sure, the media tries to put a sad face on these things, painting them up as great human tragedies.But we all know the function of the media has never been to eliminate the evils of the world, no.Their job is to persuade us to accept those evils and get used to living with them.The powers that be want us to be passive observers.Hey, you got a match?And they haven't given us any other options outside the occasional, purely symbolic,participatory act of voting.You want the puppet on the right or the puppet on the left?I feel that the time has come to project my own inadequacies and dissatisfactions into the sociopolitical and scientific schemes.Let my own lack of a voice be heard.
死后的6-12minI keep thinking about something you said.- Something I said? - Yeah.About how you often feel like you're observing your life from the perspective of an old woman about to die.- You remember that?- Yeah. I still feel that way sometimes.Like I'm looking back on my life.Like my waking life is her memories.Exactly.I heard that Tim Leary said as he was dying that he was looking forward to the moment when his body was dead, but his brain was still alive.They say that there's still 6 to 12 minutes of brain activity after everything is shut down.And a second of dream consciousness, right, well, that's infinitely longer than a waking second.- You know what I'm saying?- Oh, yeah, definitely.For example, I wake up and it's 10:12, and then I go back to sleep and I have those long, intricate,beautiful dreams that seem to last for hours, and then I wake up and it's 10:13.Exactly. So then 6 to 1 2 minutes of brain activity,I mean, that could be your whole life.I mean, you are that woman looking back over everything.Okay, so what if I am? Then what would you be in all that?Whatever I am right now.I mean, yeah, maybe I only exist in your mind.I'm still just as real as anything else.Yeah.
灵魂转世- I've been thinking also about something you said.- What's that?Just about reincarnation and where all the new souls come from over time.Everybody always say that they've been the reincarnationof Cleopatra or Alexander the Great.I always want to tell them they were probably some dumb fuck like everybody else.I mean, it's impossible. Think about it.The world population has doubled in the past 40 years, right?- So if you really believe in that ego thing of one eternal soul,then you only have a 50% chance of your soul being over 40.And for it to be over 150 years old, then it's only one out of six.So what are you saying then? Reincarnation doesn't exist or that we're all young souls like where half of us are first-round humans?No, no. What I'm trying to say is that somehow I believe reincarnation is just a poetic expression of what collective memory really is.There was this article by this biochemist that I read not long ago, and he was talking about how when a member of a species is born, it has a billion years of memory to draw on.And this is where we inherit our instincts.I like that. It's like there's, um,this whole telepathic thing going on that we are all a part of,whether we are conscious of it or not.That would explain why there's all these, you know, seemingly spontaneous, worldwide, innovative leaps in science, in the arts.You know, like the same results poppin' up everywhere independent of each other.Some guy on a computer, he figures something out, and then almost simultaneously, a bunch of other people all over the world figure out the same thing. They did this study. They isolated a group of people over time, and they monitored their abilities at crossword puzzles in relation to the general population.And then they secretly gave them a day-old crossword, one that had already been answered by thousands of other people.Their scores went up dramatically, like 20 percent.So it's like once the answers are out there, you know, people can pick up on them.It's like we're all telepathically sharing our experiences.
囚犯I'll get you motherfuckers if it's the last thing I do.Oh, you're gonna pay for what you did to me.For every second I spend in this hellhole, I'll see you spend a year in living hell!Oh, you fucks are gonna beg me to let you die.No, no, not yet.I want you cocksuckers to suffer.Oh, I'll fix your fuckin' asses, all right.Maybe a long needle in your eardrum.A hot cigar in your eye.Nothing fancy.Some molten lead up the ass.Ooh!Or better still, some of that old Apache shit.Cut your eyelids off. Yeah.I'll just listen to you fucks screaming.Oh, what sweet music that'll be.Yeah. We'll do it in the hospital.With doctors and nurses so you pricks don't die on me too quick.You know the best part?The best part is you dick-smoking faggots will have your eyelids cut off,so you'll have to watch me do it to you, yeah.You'll see me bring that cigar closer and closer to your wide-open eyeball till you're almost out of your mind.But not quite,cause I want it to last a long, long time.I want you to know that it's me,that I'm the one that's doing it to you.Me!And that sissy psychiatrist?What unmitigated ignorance!That old drunken fart of a judge!What a pompous ass!Judge not, lest ye be judged!All of you pukes are gonna die the day I get out of this shithole!I guarantee you'll regret the day you met me!
科学之后,如何自由In a way, in our contemporary world view, it's easy to think that science has come to take the place of God.But some philosophical problems remain as troubling as ever.Take the problem of free will.This problem's been around for a long time, since before Aristotle in 350 B.C. St. Augustine, St. Thomas Aquinas, these guys all worried about how we can be free if God already knows in advance everything you're gonna do.Nowadays we know that the world operates according to some fundamental physical laws,and these laws govern the behavior of every object in the world.Now, these laws, because they're so trustworthy, they enable incredible technological achievements.But look at yourself. We're just physical systems too.We're just complex arrangements of carbon molecules.We're mostly water, and our behavior isn't gonna be an exception to basic physical laws.So it starts to look like whether it's God setting things up in advance and knowing everything you're gonna do, or whether it's these basic physical laws governing everything.There's not a lot of room left for freedom.So now you might be tempted to just ignore the question, ignore the mystery of free will.Say, "Oh, well, it's just an historical anecdote. It's sophomoric.It's a question with no answer. Just forget about it."But the question keeps staring you right in the face.You think about individuality, for example, who you are.Who you are is mostly a matter of the free choices that you make.Or take responsibility. You can only be held responsible, you can only be found guilty or admired or respected for things you did of your own free will.The question keeps coming back, and we don't really have a solution to it.It starts to look like all your decisions are really just a charade.Think about how it happens. There's some electrical activity in your brain.Your neurons fire. They send a signal down into your nervous system.It passes along down into your muscle fibers.They twitch. You might, say, reach out your arm.Looks like it's a free action on your part,but every one of those- every part of that process is actually governed by physical law:chemical laws, electrical laws and so on.So now it just looks like the Big Bang set up the initial conditions, and the whole rest of our history, the whole rest of human history and even before,is really just sort of the playing out of subatomic particles, according to these basic fundamental physical laws.We think we are special. We think we have some kind of special dignity,but that now comes under threat.I mean, that's really challenged by this picture.So you might be saying, "Well, wait a minute. What about quantum mechanics?"I know enough contemporary physical theory to know it's not really like that."It's really a probabilistic theory.There's room. It's loose. It's not deterministic."And that's gonna enable us to understand free will.But if you look at the details, it's not really gonna help, because what happens is you have some very small quantum particles, and their behavior is apparently a bit random.They swerve. Their behavior is absurd in the sense that it's unpredictable, and we can't understand it based on anything that came before.It just does something out of the blue, according to a probabilistic framework.But is that gonna help with freedom?Should our freedom just be a matter of probabilities, just some random swerving in a chaotic system?That just seems like it's worse. I'd rather be a gear in a big deterministic, physical machine than just some random swerving.So we can't just ignore the problem.We have to find room in our contemporary world view for persons,with all that that it entails; not just bodies, but persons.And that means trying to solve the problem of freedom, finding room for choice and responsibility and trying to understand individuality.
反抗者You can't fight city hall, death and taxes.Don't talk about politics or religion.This is all the equivalent of enemy propaganda rolling across the picket line." Lay down, G.I. Lay down, G.I."We saw it all through the 20th Century.And now in the 21st Century, it's time to stand up and realize that we should not allow ourselves to be crammed into this rat maze.We should not submit to dehumanization.I don't know about you, but I'm concerned with what's happening in this world.I'm concerned with the structure.I'm concerned with the systems of control, those that control my life and those that seek to control it even more!I want freedom! That's what I want!And that's what you should want!It's up to each and every one of us to turn loose and just shovel the greed, the hatred, the envy and, yes, the insecurities, because that is the central mode of control-- make us feel pathetic, small, so we'll willingly give up our sovereignty, our liberty, our destiny.We have got to realize that we're being conditioned on a mass scale.Start challenging this corporate slave state!The 21st Century is gonna be a new century, not the century of slavery, not the century of lies and issues of no significance and classism and statism and all the rest of the modes of control!It's gonna be the age of humankind standing up for something pure and something right!What a bunch of garbage-- liberal Democrat, conservative Republican.It's all there to control you. Two sides of the same coin.Two management teams bidding for control!The C.E.O. job of Slavery, Incorporated!The truth is out there in front of you, but they lay out this buffet of lies!I'm sick of it, and I'm not gonna take a bite out of it! Do you got me?Resistance is not futile. We're gonna win this thing.Humankind is too good! We're not a bunch of underachievers!We're gonna stand up and we're gonna be human beings!We're gonna get fired up about the real things, the things that matter: creativity and the dynamic human spirit that refuses to submit!Well, that's it! That's all I got to say! It's in your court.
The quest is to be liberated from the negative, which is really our own will to nothingness.And once having said yes to the instant, the affirmation is contagious.It bursts into a chain of affirmations that knows no limit.To say yes to one instant is to say yes to all of existence.
mindThe main character is what you might call "the mind." It's mastery, it's capacity to represent. Throughout history, attempts have been made to contain those experiences which happen at the edge of the limit where the mind is vulnerable. But I think we are in a very significant moment in history. Those moments, those what you might call liminal, limit, frontier, edge zone experiences are actually now becoming the norm. These multiplicities and distinctions and differences that have given great difficulty to the old mind are actually through entering into their very essence, tasting and feeling their uniqueness. One might make a breakthrough to that common something that holds them together. And so the main character is, to this new mind, greater, greater mind. A mind that yet is to be. And when we are obviously entered into that mode, you can see a radical subjectivity, radical attunement to individuality, uniqueness to that which the mind is, opens itself to a vast objectivity. So the story is the story of the cosmos now. The moment is not just a passing, empty nothing yet. And this is in the way in which these secret passages happen. Yes, it's empty with such fullness that the great moment, the great life of the universe is pulsating in it. And each one, each object, each place, each act leaves a mark. And that story is singular. But, in fact, it's story after story.
Time just dissolves into quick-moving particles that are swirling away. Either I'm moving fast or time is. Never both simultaneously.
It's such a strange paradox. I mean, while, technically, I 'm closer to the end of my life than I've ever been, I actually feel more than ever that I have all the time in the world.When I was younger, there was a desperation, a desire for certainty, like there was an end to the path, and I had to get there.I know what you mean because I can remember thinking,"Oh, someday, like in my mid-thirties maybe, everything's going to just somehow jell and settle, just end."It was like there was this plateau, and it was waiting for me, and I was climbing up it, and when I got to the top, all growth and change would stop.Even exhilaration. But that hasn't happened like that, thank goodness.I think that what we don't take into account when we are young is our endless curiosity.That's what's so great about being human.- You know that thing Benedict Anderson says about identity?- No.Well, he's talking about like, say, a baby picture.So you pick up this picture, this two-dimensional image, and you say, "That's me."Well, to connect this baby in this weird little image with yourself living and breathing in the present, you have to make up a story like, "This was me when I was a year old, and later I had long hair, and then we moved to Riverdale, and now here I am."So it takes a story that's actually a fiction to make you and the baby in the picture identical to create your identity.And the funny thing is, our cells are completely regenerating every seven years.We've already become completely different people several times over,and yet we always remain quintessentially ourselves.
Our critique began as all critiques begin:with doubt.Doubt became our narrative. Ours was a quest for a new story, our own.And we grasp toward this new history driven by the suspicion that ordinary language couldn't tell it. Our past appeared frozen in the distance, and our every gesture and accent signified the negation of the old world and the reach for a new one. The way we lived created a new situation, one of exuberance and friendship, that of a subversive microsociety in the heart of a society which ignored it. Art was not the goal but the occasion and the method for locating our specific rhythm and buried possibilities of our time. The discovery of a true communication was what it was about, or at least the quest for such a communication. The adventure of finding it and losing it. We the unappeased, the unaccepting continued looking, filling in the silences with our own wishes, fears and fantasies. Driven forward by the fact that no matter how empty the world seemed, no matter how degraded and used up the world appeared to us, we knew that anything was still possible. And, given the right circumstances, a new world was just as likely as an old one.
There are two kinds of sufferers in this world: those who suffer from a lack of life and those who suffer from an overabundance of life. I've always found myself in the second category. When you come to think of it, almost all human behavior and activity is not essentially any different from animal behavior. The most advanced technologies and craftsmanship bring us, at best, up to the super-chimpanzee level. Actually, the gap between, say, Plato or Nietzsche and the average human is greater than the gap between that chimpanzee and the average human. The realm of the real spirit, the true artist, the saint, the philosopher, is rarely achieved. Why so few? Why is world history and evolution not stories of progress, but rather this endless and futile addition of zeroes? No greater values have developed. Hell, the Greeks 3,000 years ago were just as advanced as we are. So what are these barriers that keep people from reaching anywhere near their real potential? The answer to that can be found in another question, and that's this: Which is the most universal human characteristic - fear or laziness? What are you writing? A novel. What's the story? There's no story. It's just people, gestures, moments, bits of rapture, fleeting emotions.
喜欢这样话唠式探讨人生的电影,果然同一导演同男女主演同种风格。
不过这一部涉及更广,不仅仅是哲学了,还有科学物理学生物学符号学,更难理解,不过这些即使理解了也不懂。
所以大部分人看后的感觉是“许多道理都懂,仍过不好这一生。
”虽然也有这样的感觉,但不觉得这部电影是告诉我们什么道理,更倾向它只是想把导演他们对这个社会对这个世界一切的困扰和迷惑展示,是一种述说,是一种“我也不知道”的感觉。
半梦半醒,好像人人都可以对人生进行一番探索和评价,谈人生谈生命谈哲学谈各种抽象概念,随时随地,与陌生的或熟悉的,随心所欲,其实每个人也都在找那个能说得上话的人,谁都可以成为倾诉的对象,而现实的我们大多缺少这种勇气,肆无忌惮地交流和把内心感受全说出,不敢随便拉一个人就说出自己真实的想法。
而在电影里却可以毫无掩饰毫无保留着述说,不管对方听不听得懂,也不是为得到回应或为解答而提问,仅仅这些都是困惑。
台词真的好赞,喜欢瞎记录,找不到全部完整台词,自己记录的也是比较触动和简单方便思考的。
即使看不懂,即使记录下来思考过后也依然困惑,甚至越来越困惑,我们或许懂了只是我们以为的懂,或许我们真的不懂,未来某个时刻突然懂了。
然后又变得困惑,或者又在其他事情上突然一个机灵懂了,这会不会是我们一个成长和成熟的表现呢?
部分台词:“梦想是命运。
”“你越把一个人谈论成一个社会构造者或众势力的汇合体,或零碎的或脱离社会的,你就会说出一大堆的借口。
”“你要与众不同,首先,从物质方面与众不同,与其他人不同,给他们树立榜样,我们不能轻易做失自我,把自己看成众多势力的牺牲品,我们要自我定位。
”“创造产生于瑕疵,产生于斗争和挫折,这就是我认为语言的由来,我的意思是,它产生于超越自我孤立的愿望,也有某种彼此之间的关系,当它只要简单的生存,它就必须简单。
当它变成真正有趣的时候,我认为是我们用同样的符号系统来交流,所有的我们经历的抽象的和无形的事物的时候了。
”“文字是惰性的,它们只是些符号,他们是死的,懂吗?
很多感受都是无形的。
很多事物我们只能意会,不能言传。
然后,当我们在彼此交流时,我们感到彼此连在了一起,我们认为彼此都能明白对方,我们认为我们几乎有种精神交流的感觉,这种感觉是短暂的却是我们离不开的。
”“新的进化模式将赋予我们真实、忠诚,正义和自由的人类特征,这些将成为新型进化的表现,因此,这是我们所希望看到的,那将是美好的。
”“我们的自由只是一种可能性,只是在无序的状态下的突然改变,这好像更糟,我宁愿自己是在一个稳定的物质机器上的一个齿轮,而不是一些突然的改变,所以我们不能忽视这个问题,我们只能用我们的当代世界观给人们找点空间,用所有的必需的,不是对肉体,而是对人,那就意味着去解决问题,为选择和责任寻找空间,试着独立的理解。
”“艺术不是目的,而只是诱因和方法,定位我们特殊的旋律,消磨我们的时间,对真实的交流的发现就在其中,至少是在寻找这种交流,发现或丢失的冒险,没得到满足和承认的我们继续在寻觅,用自己的愿望,害怕和幻想消除寂寞。
在这种不管世界看上去多空虚,不管这世界对我们来说是如何的退化和枯竭的事实的驱使下,我们懂得什么事都有可能,在合适的环境下,新的世界很有可能和旧的一样。
”“世上有两种受折磨的人,一种人是缺乏生活,另外的人是生活过于沉重。
后者和动物没有太大差别。
”“什么阻止人们发挥他们的真正潜能,答案在另一个问题之中,那就是,什么是最普遍的人类特征,畏惧还是懒惰?
”“你要了解你首先梦到的是什么,你开始能去认识它,你开始能去问你自己,嘿,这是在做梦吗。
”“电影就其本质,是现实的再现,就是像是现实真的再生一样。
电影实际上拍下的是,像上帝的化身和创造。
电影就像对上帝的记录或上帝的脸或是不断变化的上帝的脸。
整个好莱坞拍电影尽力去做这个讲故事的媒体,拍电影不应该基于剧本,而是应该基于人和事,从那种层面上说,他们差不多形成了那种明星体制,因为电影是对人而不是关于那个故事。
特吕福常说最好的电影不一定有最好的剧本,最好的剧本不能拍出最好的电影。
因为他们带有文字叙述的事,你会受制于它,最好的电影是不会受制于剧本的。
电影总有叙述性,因为它有时间限制,就像音乐里有叙述一样,你不会首先想到一个歌的故事然后再写歌,它产生于那些瞬间,那就是电影所有的,就是那个神圣的瞬间,这神圣的瞬间在我们的周围并不神圣。
电影会让我们看到这种瞬间,我们可以把它框出来去领会它,神圣,一个接一个瞬间。
”“一千年只是一个瞬间,没什么新的,不同的事物,只是在不断的重复当中,同样的云同样的音乐,对一小时或来生有着同样的感觉。
”“你已经开始寻找答案,尽管有些困难,但回报是丰厚的,尽可能彻底的练习你的思想,知道这只是练习,创造美好的东西,解决问题,探索物质世界的奥秘,感受一切喜怒哀乐,提着你装满情感记忆的旅行袋,我记得我从哪里来,如何变成人,为何我留在附近,我最后的启程已经指日可待,以逃脱的速度离开,不仅是来世,而且要永恒。
”“生命就是一个随着时光流逝,而积累起来奇迹,是那些彼此之间存在的令人吃惊的瞬间的积累。
世界就是一场考察你是否能超越你直接的经历的考试,测试我们能不能超越你所看到的,实质考察的是我们的好奇心,疑惑考察的是我们的活力。
汤玛斯·曼恩写道,他是融入到生活中去,而不是写一百个故事。
”“一种假设说你不能够在生活的同时懂得生活。
而我会说,理解生活本身就是在生活。
”“记忆远比遗忘更能体现一种精神的行为。
罗卡在同一首诗中写道,鼠蜥会咬那些不做梦的人。
当他意识到他是另外一个人梦中的人物,那就是自知之明。
”“你从未遇见你自己,但同时遇见他人的优势,是他们中的一个会将你展现给你自己。
检查你观察的万事的本质。
”“事实上每个人的生命有种叙述,在不同的现象后面,只有一个故事,那就是从否定到肯定的故事,生活的全部就是:不,谢谢,不,谢谢。
然后最后的结果都会是一样的:是的,我投降,是的,我承认,是的,我信。
”
The philosophical dialogues in this film inspire me to think about the dreamworld and real life. There might be no absolute difference from waking and sleeping mind. On one hand, no one can prove himself awake, and one can never know whether he is dreaming. All are not lucid dreamers like Wiley, therefore the proposition that “Life is not a dream” is not convincing. We might be dreaming without being aware of it.On the other hand, “dreams are only real as long as they last.” It is the same about life. “Life understood is life lived”, and dream understood is dream lived. As long as people endow efforts to think with their own minds, dreamworld and real life are equally worthwhile. This film, by presenting intermediate state as “waking life”, shows the blurring boundary between waking and sleeping mind. We can be all dreaming, but it still counts as a real life since we make efforts to understand it. The sleeping mind operates in a logic of the dreamworld, just as the waking mind operates in real-life logic, and we can never know which one is really “real” .
摇晃的城市,虚浮的建筑,或明或暗的灯光,漂浮的桌子,抽象化的人物,带着魔幻色彩与不真实感,构成了半梦半醒的人生。
想要传达的主题大概是人生如一梦,人生便是由迷离的梦与清醒构成的,人行于世,相逢即是有缘,我们的主角没有姓名,姓名又有何用,的确,在浮生一梦的状态下,姓名只是一个代号,而真正有意义的是人本身,我们跟着主角走过一个又一个真实或虚幻的场景,不断的做梦,清醒,做梦复又清醒,陷入奇妙的循环。
形式是表达思想的一种手段,动画化的人物,粗犷的线条,不加细修,大块粗糙的色彩,不甚精细的细节,与日常稳固相反的摇晃,不完美的效果反而是这部电影的完美,也是魅力所在。
跟着主角踏上梦的旅程,遇到奇怪的人和事,然后由梦中的危险情景一下子醒来,采取的是典型的由梦中清醒的模式。
清醒片刻,不知何时就又进入一个又一个的梦境,梦境中出现最多的场景是与人交谈,交谈对象是哲学家,历史学家,人类学家,而这些人讲述的道理能够听懂却理解不了,让人云里雾里的。
或者是非主角的两个人在谈话,设计的大多是人生、生命之类的大问题。
一度以为是现实的时候,主角又从梦中清醒。
电影的后半部分与心理学家关于梦的解析有异曲同工之妙:梦与死亡的密切关系,梦境中的情境与现实生活中发生的尤其相似,梦境的联结等都让人思考。
让我冷汗涔涔的是关于解释如何从梦中清醒的那一部分,主角与人会面,谈到梦境中的开关是不起作用的,主角临走前,随手动了一下门边的开关,明亮的灯光不变,证实这是一个梦境。
梦中有梦,无穷无尽,让我想到盗梦空间。
梦境曲折离奇,或关于自己,或关于他人,梦的频繁出现让人难以区分梦境与现实,如庄周梦蝶,不知是庄周在蝶的梦中,还是蝶在庄周的梦中。
人生如梦,太过匆匆,你我皆过客,若庄周,若蝶。
回溯人类历史, 我们只重于人类的进化和它与环境的相互作用。
生物的进化伴随着人类的进化, 从原始人到现代人类的进化, 尼安德特人、克鲁马努人。
现在,有趣的是,你在这里所看到的有三个主干: 生物学,人类学,文明的发展, 和作为文化的人类表达。
这时你所看到的是种群的进化,而非个体的进化。
另外,如果你看看相关的时间表。
生命有二十亿年的历史, 原始人类有六千万年历史, 我们所了解的现代人类有十万年历史, 你就会慢慢了解到浓缩了的人类进化模式的本质。
然后当我们说到农业,科学,工业革命, 也只是一万年,四百年和一百五十年的历史。
你会看到更加浓缩了的进化过程。
于是我们进入了一个新的进化历程。
这个过程会浓缩到我们都能发觉它的存在的程度, 在我们一生之内,在我们这一代之内。
新的进化起源于两种信息: 数码与拟仿, 数码就是人工智能, 而由分子生物学和生物克隆技术产生了拟仿技术, 而神经生物学把二者紧密结合。
在旧的进化模式面前, 物竞天择,适者生存。
而在新的进化模式下, 他们会作为互助的非竞争性群体自主于外界而独立存在。
有趣的是,进化现在变成以个体自主的过程 发自作为自主的个体,而不是被动的被集体臆想支配下的个体。
因此作为新的个性和新的理念的新人类出世了。
但这只是新的进化循环的开始。
因为在下个循环进行时 输入了新智慧。
智慧不断积累,能力不断积累, 速度就会改变,直到某种意义上的高潮。
可以把它想象为人的瞬间巨大的满足感, 想象为新人类的潜能瞬间大量的释放。
那可能是个体的扩张,个体的繁殖, 和个体共生,不再有时间空间的限制。
而这些新人类进化的展现,将戏剧性的大出所望。
旧的进化已经冷却,贫瘠,但还有效。
它表现在社会对其的适应性上。
当你说到寄生,统治,道德,战争,掠夺。
这些会成为次要, 这些将会退化。
新的进化模式给予我们新的特微 真理,忠诚,正义和自由的人类特征 这些将成为这次进化所表现的, 那将是我们最期待的。
To look at human development Look at the organism’s evolution……and his environmental interaction. Evolution of the organism begins with evolution through the hominid… …coming to the evolution of man. Neanderthal, Cro-Magnon. Now, what you’re looking at here are three strings: Biological, anthropological, development of cultures… …and cultural, which is human expression. What you’ve seen is the evolution of populations, not individuals. Then look at the time scale involved. Two billion years for life, six million for hominid… …100,000 years for mankind as we know it. You see how the evolutionary paradigm telescopes. Then when you get to agriculture, scientific and industrial revolution… …you’re looking at 10,000 years, 400 years, 150 years. You see a further telescoping of evolutionary time. As we go through the new evolution… …it will telescope to the point where we see it within our lifetime. The new evolution stems from two types of information: Digital and analog. Digital is artificial intelligence. Analog results from molecular biology and cloning. You knit the two with neurobiology. Under the old paradigm, one would die, the other would dominate. Under the new paradigm, they exist as a supportive… …non-competitive grouping, independent from the external. So evolution now becomes an individually centered process… …emanating from the individual… …not a passive process with the individual at the collective’s whim. So you produce a neo-human… …with a new individuality, a new consciousness. That’s only the beginning of the cycle. As it proceeds, the input is this new intelligence. As intelligence piles on intelligence, ability on ability… …the speed changes until you reach a crescendo. Imagine it as an instant fulfillment of human and neo-human potential. It could be the amplification of the individual… …the multiplication of individual, parallel existences… …with the individual no longer restricted by time and space. And the manifestations of this neo-human evolution… …could be dramatically counterintuitive. The old evolution is cold, it’s sterile. It’s efficient. Its manifestations are those of social adaption. You’re talking about parasitism, dominance, morality… …war, predation. These will be subject to de-emphasis and de-evolution. The new paradigm would give us the traits… …of truth, loyalty, justice and freedom. These would be manifestations of this evolution. That’s what we hope. 新的进化,强调共生,不否定现状。
对于腐败政治,道德,战争,丰功伟绩,城市规划等等都没有敌意。
革命,颠覆,解放,改朝换代这些词汇将不再是于新的进化历程中的座右铭。
旧的进化继续存在,就像农田继续存在,工厂继续存在一样。
新的世界是新的进化和旧的进化的非敌对竞争性的共生,互补建构新的秩序,共同重组为明天新的系统。
随着数字技术和拟像技术进步,以及神经学的后天完善,产生了诸如电影,电子游戏,网络,google,虚拟现实,AI的普及,使得新人类的生存空间可以独立于原有的现实空间(城市的,农业的)之外而存在,而且更加丰富精彩。
这是无数个无边无际空间,就像实数轴线外面无数的虚数的存在一样。
在新的世界里,我们可以瞬间经历一切原有世界几代人积累下来的文化情感,可以即刻感触几千年人类旧文明的历史风骨,可以迅速认知旧进化历程里的每一种知识经验。
同样,可以在同一时刻“身首异处”,身体赞存某地,而大脑和意识可以各个世界空间里各个角落自由驰骋。
一切来得如此轻而易举,一切也就变得如此无足轻重。
并且,这个生存空间是完完全全属于个人属性的,个人的体验,个人的认知。
每一个存在的人,既是终端,又是主角;既是那里的奴隶,又是那里的神。
那里不是虚幻的,而是真实存在的。
因为我们在那里感动着,兴奋着,满足着,想象着,创造着。
因此,我们存在着。
同时,新的空间是自由的,无生死的,传统意义上的经验时间在这里失效。
黄粱一梦,不,是无数个不同时代(唐朝,清朝,中世纪,纽约,极乐净土等等,单选的或者多选的),不同地域(玛雅,巴黎,长安,淮海路,木卫二等等,单选的或者多选的),不同风格(歌特的,朋克的,洛可可的,工业的,禅的,单选的或者多选的)的黄粱梦,没有高潮,没有剧终。
“拟仿”是这个进化初期的主要表现形式,虚拟现实,重现。
但是,通过对旧文明的选取,剪辑,重组,再现,呈现给我们的将是新的世界景观。
而且,最重要的是作为个人而存在的新的个体将是新世界的新生物。
如何作一个“新人类”?
首先,让我们记住一个乐队的名字:joy division。
享受分裂。
如同新的进化和旧的进化共生共栖一样,我们必须学会将自身的多重人格共时分裂,并且享受这一分裂的过程。
现实世界,为了维系我们的肉身,必须尊重现实旧秩序下的生存之道。
找一份简单的工作,养活自己,找一个贤惠的妻子,繁衍后代。
孝敬老人,依法纳税,不闯红灯,不随地吐痰… …当我们进入新的世界里面,我们的元神出壳,内心的多重人格开始显现,随心所欲。
你可以是一个怨天尤人的老者,可以是一个天真无猜的童子,可以是思维缜密的统帅,可以是个欲求不满的荡妇;可以是希特勒,可以是甘地,可以是孙悟空,可以是鱼玄机,单选的或者多选的。
不会有人来限制你的演出,不会有谁来戳穿你的骗局,只要你演的出色,只要你编的过瘾。
你得到了释放,得到了满足。
这个世界没有维系旧进化的伦理道德的。
尽情的分裂,尽情的享受分裂所带来的快感吧。
其次,再让我们记住一部小说的名字,Neoromancer(神经漫游者),在新的世界里,我们的主要活动就是“漫游”,没有目的,没有理想,没有奋斗,没有鞠躬尽瘁,死而后已。
我们的生存空间已经足够复杂庞大。
我们生活在一个“后”的时代。
无为而为。
逍遥漫游。
足以。
不要担心迷失,分裂是为了更整体的实现自我。
因为你得到了自由,你将会感到更加的孤独。
同时,你将有机会去深深的思考到作为存在的本质。
化作一个蝴蝶,在这里采摘你的五彩花朵吧。
(写于05年10月20日)
电影很有趣关于社会的人类的人性的哲学思考的语言流尽管内容平庸,和男主身处其中的梦一样有水的流动质感。
我想这个电影并不是想借以梦的形式传达严肃的哲学思考,反而是脱出理性思辨的限制后,语言的无意识特性,片中大段大段对话语法正确,风格流畅,但是细纠就会发现其实这些话架空于事实和逻辑上,语言的内容与正在发生的事情之间产生互文,互为所指,就像两滴颜料融合在水中。
关于这一点,最明显的是男主在电影院看电影的一段。
电影的内容是两个人在讨论电影,电影的神圣性瞬间,有点像两个说相声的人,一个逗哏一个捧哏,逗哏的人不断将对话引向电影的叙事性,瞬间的神圣,而在他的语言之下,两个人所构成的电影画面正好成为非常恰当的说明,最后两个人在镜头前表演了这一神圣瞬间,语言与画面融合为一。
通篇男主遇到的所有人,听到和说出的所有语言,发生的所有事件都具有梦的这一不受理性控制的现实结构之下的超现实性,在每一个微妙不引起注意的地方形成断裂和超越的逻辑结构。
由此产生的梦境内容虚假与现实性的交互其实也可以类推到电影剧本写作中,即情节超越于故事框架而与写作行为或者拍摄的创作行为本身发生关系。
绕了一圈结果又回来了。
你曾经有没有这种感觉,好象做梦永远都不会醒。
永远分不清楚现实和梦境的区别。
我总是从一个梦境中醒来,然后发现自己进入另一个梦中,永无休止。
梦中的一切似乎都异常熟悉,清晰可见,但是却怎么都想不起来在哪里看过。
我说的不是DEJA VU,而是真实。
如果你曾经有过这样的体验,那就去看《WAKING LIFE》吧,那是我见过的最具梦幻气质的动画了。
事情总是这样有意思,当3年前某一天,朋友问我有没有看过一部叫《WAKING LIFE》的动画的时候,我就有某种似曾相识的感觉,好象在哪个遥远的地方听过这个名字?
在她发来的HP上,那油彩一般的画面,和超现实的场景马上就吸引了我。
“你是不是从来不曾醒来?
”“你知道梦中的世界是怎样的吗?
”。
可惜的是当年没有并找不到这部电影,我逛了很多的碟市,也没有听人提起过它。
可能独立电影的市场还是不行吧。
只是现在……某一天在杂志上发现了RICHARD LINKLATER的名字,知道了这个导演《SLACKER》,《BEFORE SUNRISE》的另类,原来就是创作《WAKING LIFE》的人。
欣喜之下马上在P2P上搜索,终于找到了。
于是在某个半梦半醒的晚上,在微亮的电脑前看完了它。
无法叙述更多的剧情,因为这电影基本就没有剧情,一个人在梦境中醒来,听不同的人说话,然后醒了,发现仍然是一个梦,再不断的和别人说话。
这一次又一次重复的过程让人想起了庄周梦蝶和轮回的观点,但又不完全相象,似乎更接近MATRIX所说的虚拟和现实的界限。
可是并非那么冷冰冰的,只是梦罢了,不涉及生死,无关乎大局,纯粹个人的体验。
碰巧这个想法也曾经在我脑中出现过,当你不断的醒来,不断对当下的世界做出否定的同时,也会不断加重自身的疲惫。
当你发现自己穿梭的只是一个又一个的梦,却永远没可能改变他们,或者是脱离的时候,我想任谁都无法忍受。
电影中的主人公似乎就深受其苦。
他好奇,却又彷徨,不知这一切是从哪里开始的。
“我从什么时候开始做这个梦的呢?
”,“又或者我也不过是别人的一个梦而已?
”当想到着一点的时候,个人的危机终于出现了,我是何以成为这个独一无二的我的?
这个问题从电影的一开始就被提了出来,然后通过和主角谈话的不同的人口中说出不同的答案,不过我想肯定大多数会在这看来没有尽头的对话面前晕菜的。
从量子力学,存在主义,尼采的自我本我超我,到进化论,心理学,语言学,佛教的转世,鲍德里亚的虚拟与仿真,后现代主义,“神圣”意味的电影语言……还有许多我也不知道的内容。
这种感觉怎么形容呢,好象是看到熟悉的人一样想冲上去拥抱他,但是又有一种想把显示器砸掉的冲动。
因为……许多的对话机智幽默,但也意义深刻,冗长不已,三番五次我都克制着自己想睡觉的冲动。
所有的人都像主角提供着解释的方式,却无法解决现实的问题。
直到最后……影片并未向我们提供一个一成不变的答案,相反,主人公是用一种近乎个人式的方法醒来(?
或者又进入一个梦?
),这是不是意味着所谓的知识——现存的那些知识,是不足以来解决我们所碰到的关于认识自身的那个问题——那个永远高悬在DELPHI神庙的警句。
我们只有通过逐渐地了解自己,从自身的内部寻找通往彼岸的出路。
看完电影已经很晚了。
我并没有找到答案,只是经历了一个漫长的旅程。
也许明天醒来,这也不过是昨天的一个梦,谁知道呢?
PS,值得一提的还有影片那怪异奇特的动画影象风格,对于看惯日本动画的我们觉得是一次新奇的冲击。
原文地址:http://makzhou.blogbus.com/logs/2004/11/493727.html标题套用了MOG的发言哦^^
无目的的行走,随机事件,陌生人没完没了的对话,水彩动画效果,没有剧情没有冲突,比梦境更虚幻。
如果你喜欢大卫林奇也许你会喜欢它,尽管差别巨大。。。
如果你喜欢ANMIATRIX你会喜欢它,尽管主题不同。。。
平淡但不是白开水而是脑力劳动。
不会再有类似的电影出现啦,俺想。
在我还没有完全弄明白它们的真正指向之前,我不敢说这是好还是不好。
但确实唬住我了。
我只感觉主人公迷茫的心境很像我。
我们不舍昼夜的探求宇宙的本质,就像蚍蜉感知树的信息。
哪有那么容易,必定要经过冲突对撞,无力挣扎,关于世界,社会,科学,政治,宗教,艺术,历史,当人脑中一片杂乱不知从何捋起的时候,就会变成导演的前后不搭的呓语。
再看看再说。
你有没有过这种感觉,好象做梦永远都不会醒。
永远分不清楚现实和梦境的区别。
总是从一个梦境中醒来,然后发现自己进入另一个梦中,永无休止。
梦中的一切似乎都异常熟悉,但却不是那样清晰,即便你睁大眼睛……如果你有过这样的体验(梦中梦),推荐去看《WAKING LIFE》,不过要有心理准备 因为这电影基本就没有剧情,一个人在梦境中醒来,听不同的人说话,然后醒了,发现仍然是一个梦,再不断的和别人说话。
而且说的东西实在是难懂 而且是一句接着一句 就算看着那中文字幕 也会觉得难以理解 比如存在主义,尼采的自我本我超我,进化论,心理学,语言学,佛教的转世,鲍德里亚的虚拟与仿真,后现代主义,“神圣”意味的电影语言,自由主义,梦与死亡……片中的一些比较有印象的片段 一个司机关于自由的感言、一个自杀者关于自杀的言论、一个坐监黑人的凶狠诅咒、一个无政府主义愤青言辞激进的演讲、一段关于导演Steven Soderbergh的电视访谈、四个年轻人关于现实的抱怨、一个发生在加油站和酒吧的奇怪故事,一只猩猩的演说,两位电影人关于电影本质的探讨,两位成功女士关于自我的闲谈,许多人关于梦的解说……总之男主角就是从一个又一个的梦境中醒来,每次醒来都会开始一段全新的谈话,有时候是交谈,有时候只是聆听,有时候甚至更像是目击着整件事情,但这些遭遇在海量的谈话信息中已经显得不再重要了,当现实与梦境已经无法分辨的时候这二者都失去了意义不知道如何评说此作 但有一点是确定的 我是经历了一个漫长的旅程 也得到许多信息(即使那只占了作品中海量谈话信息的10%) 真的好象在梦境中游走 但却不是毫无意义的 虽然无法得到明确的答案 就象片中的主角到最后都没有能够从梦中醒来 然而确实他已经不在害怕 彷徨和迷茫 ……===================== 部分文字转自互联网
实在是太梦幻了。扛不住。
I keeps waking up while watching this
手持无敌晃,真的很晕。毫无剧情可言,大段对话拼凑,很无聊。也就形式挺特别的。
这和爱在黎明破晓时,爱在日落黄昏时异曲同工啊 但是 显然后两部比这部好懂多了
动画,哲学,镜头一直瞎比晃,你不晃就不能表达你的观点了?你明明用DV拍的真人,非得动画化,不动画化就不能表达你的观点了?哲学本来就很难懂,这样一处理我只能认为你表达的是装逼哲学。
時間。夢。看到HOLLY MOMENT的時候也覺得很感動。JESSE最后還是跟CELINE上床了~~~INCEPTION的編劇也看過這片子吧!
有些挣扎,大家都在发表观点,一个电影,不讲一个事情,直接露骨地这么讲啊讲还算是电影吗?如此华美和贴近梦的视觉效果,内容却是极为清醒的。
#Venezia01# #Film-Philosophy# 大谈ontology,但自身却毫无对ontology的思索。
做实拍转动画这么恶心的效果这他妈不是扯淡吗 哦这就是一部纯“扯淡”的电影。。惊喜的是伊桑和朱莉出现的两分钟是Before sunset的小番外 聊的还是Before sunrise里轮回的话题 失望的是他俩就出现了两分钟。。。。。。。。。。。。
稀里糊涂的看了N多人生观点和公开课.....
这种话唠片必须是美国制造。我太佩服自己的眼力了,主角就是年少轻狂里内个做作的长发小子。
可恶了,画面风格及其牛逼,内容却完全是由一段段絮絮叨叨长篇大论的形而上说教组成...看了半个小时就败掉了,两次才看完...其实感觉这种文学性的东西完全就不该拍成电影,竟然还配上这么噱头的画面,完全叫人没法把注意力集中到作为主体的台词上啊!!!
搞笑,竟然看到了before sunrise里两位说着很无聊的东西
现实里我高喊:Life is not a dream, be aware, be aware, and be aware! 在梦里我翻了个身,继续睡下去。
突然发现这和日出日落是一个导演拍的啊,难怪如此熟悉。片子一样的碎碎念,涉及了各个方面,人生,梦想,社会,自己等等。与其说是一部深邃的讨论生命意义的动画,不如说是导演对自己观念的一个表达。拍摄手法很新颖,我第一次见到这么拍的。
一部动画片也能把人晃吐...画风也出奇的难看,看了几分钟就关了
不停地散发性的讲话,画面晃得我头晕
very special.很有风格的片子。
有点牛,太过哲学向了,明白了很多道理却依旧过不好这一生,更不要提还有那么多我不明白的道理呢。
2D渲染的有点像之前看过的一部片子